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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Oct 3, 2007 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

So many times I've been at shows, or listening to them, and no matter how huge the show is (or was), the second set closer sometimes left me quite flat. Something about having yet another "One More Saturday Night" carted out just because it was Saturday seemed to somewhat take away from the hugeness before it. But instead of moaning about what tunes you hated in this slot, what about the ones that you DID like? For me I always enjoyed a rousing Sugar Mags to close out the second set.
You could also answer this question by plugging a tune that you wish they HAD closed out a second set with. How would you have reacted if, say, they had whipped out an Eyes of the World to end the set? Would have worked for me.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2007-10-03 18:36:38

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Poster: airgarcia416 Date: Oct 3, 2007 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

You know, the standard fare for closing the second set was relatively redundant, which was always a shame.

Of the 2nd set closers I saw ('85 and forward), as has already been stated was doing the Dew. Not even a close second would be NFA.

Now what I would have wished for would have been:

Franklin's Tower, PITB or a cool combo of GDTRFB>NFA>GDTRFB Reprise.


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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 3, 2007 2:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: THE EAGLE HAS LANDED-----

word to that, on the Goin Down the Road Feelin Bad....that stands out to me as the song that could really tie the show up nicely

BUT really it is the vibe at the end that counts, are they cruising in gracefully for a landing....or are they just wrappin' it up? of course, that is part of the beauty, one minute they seem like they are going through the motions and all of a sudden BANG!...

what can you say, they had their set of closers, that;s how it worked...."alright folks, here's your sugar....we'll see ya all on down the road.....please gather you belongings and mind your neighbor on the way out"


-----CHECK OUT THESE-------


NFA > UNCLE JOHN'S BAND:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-02-18.sbd.orf.107.sbeok.shnf

FRANKLIN'S >AROUND AND AROUND:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd76-09-27.aud.parrillo.3821.sbeok.shnf

LOVELIGHT>ME & MY UNCLE:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-03-24.sbd.hollister.2990.sbeok.shnf

SUGAR MAGNOLIA>CAUTION>WHO DO YOU LOVE:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-04-29.aud.vernon.5250.sbeok.shnf

EYES OF THE WORLD>PLAYIN IN THE BAND:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-03-28.sbd-aud.cotsman.11473.sbeok.shnf

TERRAPIN STATION:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-04-22.sbd.cotsman.10148.sbeok.shnf

ST STEPHEN>TRUCKIN:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-11-06.sbd.nawrocki.283.sbeok.shnf

IKO IKO>SUGAR MAGNOLIA (for the end of set IKO):

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-04-11.sbd.miller.18099.sbeok.shnf





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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Oct 3, 2007 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: THE EAGLE HAS LANDED-----

Wharf Rat > St Steve Rep > Truckin to end the Broome 77 2nd set ....

A fine call.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 3, 2007 7:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: end-of-set GDTRFB

They did end a show once with a Sugar Mag>Goin' Down the Road, so that Garcia's sad little tune at the end of the Road was the last thing played! Very, very effective:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-11-19.sbd.winters.17705.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Oct 3, 2007 7:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

Ya know, SDH, I was just thinking this very thing. I am going through the second half of 79 show by show and the thought just going through my head was "If I hear one more %*$*ing OMSN or Bobby Good Lovin' I'm going to puke"


My favorite is Morning Dew...and a close second is Caution>Feedback>And We Bid You Goodnight

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Oct 3, 2007 8:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

playin>ujb>playin>scarlet>estimated>fire>wharfrat>terrapin>darkstar>eyes>china doll. hey a man could dream.













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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Oct 3, 2007 5:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

I'm all for restructuring the whole shooting match. Second set openers to be an extension of the first set, then the jam>drums>space>reprise>morph>second reprise>close as the end of the show.

Face it, nine times out of ten, anything that followed the second set jam was a let down. By the time Jerry attemted to rip into a US Blues or any one of the standard closers, it was time to go.

Another alternative would be a few second set standards, then as the closer do the jam thing. I'm with SDH, too often the ending fell flat.

If it was otherwise a 5 star show, sometimes a bad closer would leave a similarly bad taste in ones mouth that really wasn't deserved.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Oct 3, 2007 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

Morning Dew.

why? because if they walked off after that tune, you likely just saw something that blew your f'in mind.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd86-03-24.cirella.kerbel.5570.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 3, 2007 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

ditto

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Oct 3, 2007 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

Could not disagree one bit. What is it about that song? Jerry in the raw. So much emotion and soul
Ah, A.M. DEW


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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Oct 3, 2007 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

Good call, that would indeed be a mind-blower.

A good example of the Sugar Mag as a 2nd set closer (in a way) is from Lehigh 9/25/81 where they came out of Space into Sugar Mags, but held off on Sunshine Daydream until after Around & Around to close out the set. T'was large.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 3, 2007 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

I find it easier to think of the ones I DIDN'T like just because so many were " hurry up and let's finsish this thing" throwaways. At least in the years I was seeing them. For instance, NFA was GREAT for many years but sucked 89-91 ( when I saw the majority of my shows ).

One song that I hated seeing live but have come to thoroughly enjoy listening to now is Good Lovin.

As for what tunes I wish they had ended with - hmmm. Well Morning Dew is an excellent choice. Let's see, how about Greatest Story Ever Told?

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Poster: Speaking in Swords Date: Oct 3, 2007 12:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

Morning Dew, but I think the Playin' reprise on 5/19/77 (no encore) worked like magic.

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Poster: dc2 Date: Oct 3, 2007 12:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

double ditto

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 3, 2007 2:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

Good post; MDew is an excellent choice. So is GStory. Mine though, would be a great acoustic version of something to really get you all together (ie, all the friends with you at the show, the band, etc.).

So, my vote goes for an acoustic UJohn's Band. Or even a gospel tune like Cold Jordan...

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Poster: airgarcia416 Date: Oct 3, 2007 2:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

Might As Well would be cool too.

"Never had such a good time" ringing through your head as you be boop out to the lot.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Oct 3, 2007 10:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

I agree with the consensus on the Dew but this http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-06-15.sbd.ladner.8570.sbeok.shnf
Around & Around Closer I listened to recently is pretty rockin.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Oct 3, 2007 12:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

As far as the standards, I always liked Sugar Mag, Playin Reprise and the Old (pre-80) Around and Around.

Of the rarer show/2nd set enders I was fortunate enough to witness, I would say my favorites were:

1) Dew

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-12-31.sbd.bertha-ashley.12784.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-12-28.sbd.hinko.18980.sbeok.shnf

2) Casey Jones

http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-05-23.sbd.gorinsky.5058.sbeok.shnf

3) Truckin

http://www.archive.org/details/gd79-10-31.sbd-aud.shephard.9372.sbefail.shnf

I also saw SOTM as a show ender and was not impressed.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Oct 3, 2007 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite 2nd Set Ender

sugar mags.

I choose it over morning dew based on concert experience. I saw more SM and unfortunately the luck of the draw was cruel. The few MD I saw were all post brent. I will say this...there was a short time when Good lovin was a very nice closer. That lost something big time as years went on.

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Oct 3, 2007 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Set Ender

In no particular order:

Music Never Stopped

Franklin's Tower

Touch o Grey

Truckin